Firstly,
a happy new year all! Been a while since I had time to post, so as
the new year highs fade, it is time that I get motivated while I have
a hiatus between studies.
The
purpose of this post is an investigation in to our notions of
identity, where we can check out if there is any real substance to
them. One of the things any fair enquirer needs to do is make a
distinction between what is real and what is simply conceptual.
For
instance, if you pick an object where you are now, such as the table
leg, evidently you can look at it and say it exists and is made of a
substance such as wood, metal, or plastic.
Then,
we can make another distinction and point to certain objects and the
way we actually categorise them. For instance, a car is made up of
complex components such as chassis, engine block, axles, wheels,
pistons, microchips, exhaust, seats and whole other multitude of
things.
Rather than list the individual components out each time we
want to talk about it we look to the functional role of the machine
and apply a concept that captures its description. The term 'car'
is a convenient label that represents the machines functional role
and is used in our everyday conversations as a label of convenience.
Here,
we have two types of identity that we use interchangeably, and this
can cause us to flit between the two while conducting first person
enquiry in to the nature of what exists. What we really need to do is
highlight the differences between these two ideas and look at the
intuitions we have regarding the matter.
Identity is a notoriously
troublesome topic in contemporary philosophy, and aside from using a
lot of algebra and tedious explanation, there is no real consensus
and fractured positions on what constitutes identity.
For our
purposes though, we can simply look at our basic intuitions, and
extract some key principles that we can employ to focus on LOOKING.
There is no substitute for LOOKING, however, it seems to me that what
gets people free is that they do the work themselves and smash the
shit out of their own concepts of reality to test them for coherence.
A break down of some belief is useful, but represents only part of
the way you need to go to see the fiction of 'self' in real life. For
this reason we can start to flush out some of theses preconceptions
we have about identity and hold them up to scrutiny in the LOOKING
process, which you should ideally have started or are about to embark
on. This kind of explanation will not free you and should be used as
a guide on how to test a presupposition, rather than instructions for
LOOKING itself.
Why
is identity so troublesome?
Surely, it is
simple to say “I am this body, or I am me”?
Before
we can give an answer to this question we have certain
presuppositions in place that must be challenged, and for this we
require a thought experiment. The most famous example of identity in
philosophy is known as the “Ship of Theseus” case.
In
this example, the ship of Theseus was preserved over time and as each
timber started to decay, it was carefully restored with a new piece.
After many years, eventually none of the original parts were left as
they had all been replaced, and the question we ask now is whether or
not what we see before us is still the ship of Theseus?
"The
ship wherein Theseus and the youth of Athens returned [from Crete]
had thirty oars, and was preserved by the Athenians down even to the
time of Demetrius Phalereus, for they took away the old planks as
they decayed, putting in new and stronger timber in their place,
insomuch that this ship became a standing example among the
philosophers, for the logical question of things that grow; one side
holding that the ship remained the same, and the other contending
that it was not the same."
—Plutarch
Of
course, it seems right to say either “it is”, or “it is not”
the same ship, simply because it is contradictory to suppose it is
both the Theseus and not the Theseus at the same time.
Which
is the correct answer?
The
answer is not apparent immediately and we must explore the
consequences of each answer to see where it gets us. Firstly, if you
have ever seen the television show “Only fools and horses”, you
may remember the broom sketch.
'In
this classic scene, Trigger claims that he's had his road sweeper's
broom for 20 years. But then he adds that the broom has had 17 new
heads and 14 new handles.
"How
can it be the same bloody broom then?" asks Sid the café owner.
Trigger produces a picture of him and his broom and asks: "what
more proof do you need?" (uktv gold)'.
It
is evident then, that the same principle applies to both examples and
we could provide a range of cases such as a spade comprising of three
parts: handle, stem, and metal plate, all the way up to a ship
consisting of many parts. What is true of one of these cases is also
true of the other, where all the parts have been replaced, this
causes us a problem in how we attribute identity.
Bearing
this in mind, with the ship of Theseus case you may have been
inclined to say it was the same ship regardless of whether it was
made from different material. The new Theseus, even though it has
been replaced with new timbers, occupies the same spatial position
and has the same name. However, this intuition seems a bit harder to
hang on to when we consider the case of Trigger's broom. If we hung
up the broom and swapped the head two days later, and then the handle
a few days after that, can we still maintain it is the same broom so
easily? We will consider this in greater depth later.
Secondly,
to make things even more interesting, Thomas Hobbes' alternative
thought experiment utilised the same principle as the ship of Theseus
case, only this time, he suggested that if he was to collect each old
part of the Theseus as it was scrapped, and then he reconstructed the
Theseus out of the discarded wood, which one then would be the real
Theseus?
Would
it be the restored version made of new wood?
Or...
Would
it be the antique built from the scraps of old wood?
In
this case it seems absurd to suggest that the one built from the
scrap components is not the Theseus, while its modern counterpart is
actually the real Theseus. This faces a damaging objection because
how can the original parts organised in exactly the same original
manner no longer be the Theseus?
If
we held our intuitions steadfast against this objection and stuck to
the claim the ship made from the new components was the
Theseus, it's identity would
consist for us in the functional role of the Theseus.
We
would be denying that its
identity was reliant on it's actual physical matter.
If
we take the opposing view and deny the new ship is still the Theseus
once its components have been replaced, we also run in to difficulties. If we take our two ships constructed from new wood and
the old scraps, one could commit to the idea that the ship built out
of old components is the real Theseus and its modern counterpart is
not the real Theseus.
Let us then suppose that the modern Theseus is
a sea faring vessel and we are the captain of that ship. As we go
through our life we witness each part of the ship is replaced until
eventually, we have none of the original components remaining.
It
would seem absurd to suggest to us that it was not the same ship that
we had sailed countless times around the world on, we could even
provide the legal documentation, insurance certificates, and log book
to show our claim that our ship had always been the Theseus, and this
claim would have legal weight in the courts.
In the case of the ship
being built out of all the old parts, is it realistic to deny that is
the Theseus though? Even though legally speaking the new ship is the
Theseus, can we ignore our intuition that the same matter provides
its identity?
In
the instance we denied that the ship made from new wood was the
Theseus, we would be denying that
the functional role of the ship constituted its identity. We
would be looking to the physical
components themselves that manifest an objects identity.
If
we were to stick with this physical matter position we face a fatal
objection which consists of this challenge. At what point does the
Theseus change identity? If we are willing to conjecture that the new
ship stops being the Theseus at some point, then we need to be able
to explain exactly when this is. In philosophy we cannot use vague
concepts to gloss over our problems.
We need to provide a solid chain
of reasoning to demonstrate exactly what this change consists in. So,
lets try and pick a figure, perhaps when 50% of the original material
has been swapped out? Why not 49%, or 25% though?
The trouble is we
cannot provide a chain of reasoning here to distinguish between any
percentage and therefore any number we choose is simply arbitrary.
Consequently no chain of reasoning is sufficient to establish an
argument and we are unable to say when this change occurred. If we
cannot say when or how this change occurred, then how can we claim
there even was a change in the identity of the Theseus?
So,
let us sum up where we are at so far. We can either point to the
functional role of an object as constituting its identity, or the
physical components themselves that constitute identity.
If we choose
one we must necessarily deny the other and we have discovered that if
we choose either one we run in to a paradox, which means our simple
preconceptions about identity are incoherent with reality. Therefore,
we can point to the fact that our notion of identity is inherently
flawed somewhere along the line.
From this point, we can start to
point out that our life is based on these notions of identity, and as
humans, we have built castles in the sand right from the very start
of our lives. Hopefully, this will be illuminating for you if you
have worked these ideas through and checked their integrity, however,
it is not enough to show this paradox alone to dismiss our notions of
identity.
We need to be able to show further problems with our notion
of identity and demonstrate how this obtains to ideas about what
makes us numerically identical (one and the same thing) over time.
Before
we embark further, if we imagine that an object changes its material
over time, can we say it is still the same thing? This of course, depends on the position you took in the Theseus case. What relevance has the
ship of Theseus to a biological organism?
Part II Here
2 comments:
Very nice blog post is this! Are you familiar with fuzzy logic? Bart Kosko wrote a very fine book on how to work with FL which is probably still in print if you're interested. I can't comment on what you are going to say in part 2, but I think much of the mess that arises from the ship of Theseus business can be mopped up (and perhaps it's the only way) by coming at it via FL. BTW happy new year!
Hi mate, glad you enjoyed it!
The purpose really is to start to challenge the notion of identity itself. When one holds to the claim that they are one thing or another, we find that there is no certainty within these claims, especially when we relate this to how we think about ourselves as beings in the world. The ship of Theseus is a great way to get people to think about continued identity over time and is pop-philosophy that does not require loads of conceptual thinking. The fuzzy logic angle sounds fun but I don't think there is a solution to the Theseus puzzle... for reasons that will hopefully become clear!
Happy new year :)
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