Saturday, 12 May 2012
Anatta
'Quick
question: if this concept has been known to buddhists for so long
(Anatta, i believe), why dont buddhists quickly become enlightened
like many of the truthstrike/ruthless truth members supposedly do?
What takes them so long?'
Well there are various stages of
enlightenment and I wouldn't want to tell you that after this your
done and you will never have a bad thought or feel pain again. This
kind of state is contrary to popular belief because people have been
sold a lie of what enlightenment is. Check out what Jed Mckenna says
about it.
After waking up here then you have to try and learn to live
without actively trying to maintain a self image which lets face it,
we have all spent our lives doing so it can be a little
disorientating. After this realisation, the most important thing is
facing up to the truth. You have to start to look honestly at the
junk you have accumulated through your life and try and scythe
out the remnants of that delusion.
The complexes of ego that were
always there don't vanish overnight but you can see through them as
illusory and certainly not be governed by them in the same way. If
you identify in subtle ways, it soon becomes apparent and you can
start to look at the roots of what is driving this identification.
Also you can diffuse negativity before it even arises and the sense
of attachment that you derive from outcomes no longer has any weight.
So if you were interested in buddhism and wished you were 'non
attached' to things, that in itself is an attachment! No self is
seeing through this paradox and this can be achieved by looking. By
seeing this you are removing a core component of your delusion and
the lynch pin of human dysfunction.
As for the Buddhists, they use
meditation which I think is useful for developing concentration and
chilling out but I don't really think it has quite as much potency as
autolysis personally. That is just my opinion having used both.
The
advantage I would give to seeing no self is that you start to pump
your honesty to really high levels and that allows you to call
yourself on your own bullshit in a very powerful way that is not
available to you with a self, since the self image we were defending
actually clouds our judgement and causes dishonest thinking by its
very nature. It is actually a block to honesty as all of the hundreds
of threads we have ever dealt with have focused on highlighting this
dishonesty and that would bear testament to this very matter of fact.
Seeing as there are people who have meditated their whole
lives and are still not free I think it certainly depends on what you
are meditating on and whether you are looking honestly or deceiving
yourself. This is why I think it can take some people so many years.
What takes the time for Buddhists and
any kind of seeker is scything the complexes of false thinking and
judgements away that are hard wired in to our emotions etc... No one
can really claim to undo this conditioning overnight, that would be
absurd. This scything away of hubris is what takes the time. However
the ability to see it honestly as it is and step out of the mindset
of being affected by it... now that is a powerful thing and a head
start, where you are not bogged down with misery , negativity and
attachments while you are facing up to your own internal hubris.
What we are offering is not a golden ticket of enlightenment as such,
we are simply a offering an obvious truth that anyone can discover for
themselves which is freedom from this self image that drives suffering in human beings.
So whilst this empirical methodology is
a whole new take on enlightenment and we were guinea pigs as such do
not think to yourself this is going to cure all your problems in a
week, there are plenty of permanent benefits from this realisation of
no self, but its real power is in allowing you to face up to your
'problems' with sincere honesty so you can address them and see how
much truth is really in them.
Like many of us here you would probably
realise it was all in the mind and there never was a problem, they
were just fantasies derived from a self image.
Your big 'problems' with 'yourself' are just fantasies, want to see how far the rabbit hole goes?
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1 comments:
I've been coming to realize that after realizing the 'big picture' there is still some stuff that is available for our guidance as enlightened people.
I mean, sure, we don't get caught up in egoic nonsense as easily and reach a state of ecstasy from 'looking' at it from time to time. But I did notice that I can't function in the world continuously staring at this.
So I've looked for more answers from the ancients. I'm reading a book called "Everyday Tao" that, so far, is really good. There is some terminology that I'd like to make sure is not pointing to something magical (like whenever it says the word 'spiritual' ).
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